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Jon W

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Hey nobody, just curious, how's your Grendel coming?
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i have put 20 rounds of wolf thru it and cleaned it. man it was a job to clean. i put 20 rounds of hornady black box 123 grain match thru it. 5 to zero it and three 5 shot groups. this rifle shows promise. it is rough to clean. i hope it stops raining when i return home from work(in the hotel in chattanooga now. hope to get a train home wednesday night). i plan to take a trip off so i can test it again with 123 grain hornady black box. four 5 shot groups at 100 yards. then i will TUBBs final finish it and do four more 5 shot groups of the hornady 123 grain black box.

i use a set 36x scope for testing. i will also use my benchrest joy stick front rest and rear bag for this testing. my joy stick rest is a butch lambert joy stick long range centerfire top on a heavy caldwells base.

i will be at a friends house and we will video it all. they say if the barrel shoots well to not use bullets 1 or 2 and to start with bullets 3 thru 5 so not to wear out the throat. we'll see how it goes cause this barrel is head and shoulders better than the first one, but it is rough. i may run at least 3 or 4 of the course bullets thru it just to see if it cleans it up any.

i already have a youtube video of this barrel on youtube before i mounted it to a action. we will bore scope it again to see ifit cleans up well. lord knows it can't make it any harder to freaking clean than it is now.
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since google took over youtube I now have two channels under different names. I got bored today and loaded 20 grains of varget powder and 5 of the tubs number 1 bullets. I shot them. then I cleaned it. then I loaded 5 of the number 4 bullets and shot them. reason I did 5 of each is I don't want the throat to grow largely. I can tell you the barrel is starting to clean up a lot easier than before!! I will finish it off shooting all 10 of the next three types of bullets!


 sorry I didn't video or chrony it. I had to build a ar15 with a 26 inch white oak barrel, gas block and gas tube today. then I had to put a new recoil pad on a Remington 700 .30-06 that had two inches cut off the butt stock.

 it seems to never end for me.
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I bore scoped the rifle today. I will have to shoot more of bullets 1 and 2 thru the barrel. it seems like these bullets are just like a .22lr. with a .22lr each bullet lays down the lube(if you change rounds you have to lay down the new rounds lube over the old. i learned many years ago from shooting A.R.A. and IR50/50 matches you never totally clean a .22lr barrel.). after 5 rounds of number 1 bullets and 5 rounds of number 2 bullets the barrel is easier to clean. when i put the bore scope in it i noticed off the bat the throat had not grown any. the next thing i noticed was the barrel was cleaner till the last 6 inches. the last 6 inches looked exactly like it did from the factory. so like the .22lr these bullets will only cover so much of the barrel with each shot.

 i have used 5 each of the two heaviest grit bullets. the throat hasn't gone south. it is actually looking dag gone good!!!! so much for the throat growers. this is a $130 barrel. if the throat does grow later on i'm not out any large amount of money like if it was a cut rifled barrel, hand lapped to perfection. i'm just testing the fire lapping bullets. when we get down to using bullets 3,4 and 5 i will video and chrony it. then shoot groups.

 i have been busy trueing several savage and Remington actions. savage actions can be a job, but i made my own jig for them. i do small and large shank actions. i also posted on savage shooters how to do the rimfire and centerfire accu triggers. my .308 has a 8 oz regular trigger with out the blade that is 4ft drop proof. since i refused to pay for the site, they dropped my posts and somebody else got credit for what i figured out and designed. i could be mad, but it helped others with savage rifles.
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today I finally had the time to pt the last 5 number 1 and number 2 bullets(a total of 10) down this barrel. after I cleaned it(much easier) I bore scoped it. all the machining marks are gone. no more chatter marks any place. the throat actually looks great.
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today I got the time to finish off the last 5 of bullets #1 and #2. after cleaning(a lot easier now) I stuck the bore scope in it. no more chatter marks that didn't disappear by shot one and clean break in crap. I have tried that on many rifles. I have never seen it remove chatter marks that trap copper. never seen it fix bad rifling either. I can tell you there are bad spots in this barrels rifling. no amount of hand or fire lapping will make them good. I have not seen accuracy falling off. I have tested it with 123 grain hornady black box match.it shot good before, and still shoots good. the only difference is it cleans so much easier now. I will wait till I can video it before I do any more testing with the tubs final finish.
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here are a before and several after videos.









 I still haven't shot the final 5 bullets. it still shoots as good as it did at first, it just cleans so much easier!!
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I put about 100 rounds down the pipe before I did the tubbs final finish kit. mainly just cheap 100 grain wolf fmj. I want to see if the shoot the barrel in myth worked out. it did nothing but pile copper up in the chatter marks on my barrel. maybe that is what they mean by shooting one in. you fill the bad spots with copper. when you give it a good cleaning and remove all the copper you have to go thru filling those spots back up again before it starts shooting good again. this worked for me. it shoots just as good as before I did it, but it cleans so much easier now. I have put 100 rounds of hornady 123 grain black box match thru it since I did step 4. still haven't polished it up yet with step 5. don't know if I will to be honest with you guys and gals. I took the set 36x weaver off it and put a 1x6x20mm leupold on it for deer season.
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