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Guys get paid to push products and run down competitors products online. Probably what is going on here.
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that guy must have anything to do but Monitor every site he can and drop his great knowledge to every topic that someone starts. Anyone with some common sense will realize he's full of it . I am talking about LLRRPFWTF


Those are great initals for him. LRPWTF...
So a year ago me and another guy added up all the posts he had in a years time, he could not have a job. It was over 11,000 in a 12 month period. I didn't know surfing the Forum's was a paying job. Look at some of his responces, it isn't just a yes or no answer, he repies with lectures, pictures and must have some sort of rocket scientist engineering degree....

Also with all of his combat, not sure when he got that degree.  I'd like to see that piece of paper, not that its worth anything...

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There should be a thread with all his crap.

Well, there is a file for sure...I'm guessing there is at least one more. Google his name in Sandy, Utah.  He sells boxes and has a 2 man security business. Lots of time to serf while watching a monitor of people parking cars.

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I actually stopped even going on 65grendel because of the lecturing type explanations.  I started to ruffle feathers I think when I posted a build in the variants thread and poked fun at the hypocrisy that "it's not a grendel unless SAAMI" but "we consider it a grendel because it shoots factory 6.5 grendel ammo".  I haven't gone back since I posted something about how I wasn't supposed to make fun.  

I'd just as well ignore him if I were you guys.  He obviously has all the time in the world to post very lengthy wordy posts appearing to be technically superior to all who post before him.  I know ignoring someone who posts in every single 6.5 Grendel thread on the web is tough to ignore though.  He seems to be fed by the back and forth.  My opinion has been formed and it appears that 6.5 Grendel coupled with AA and a compound throat is a religion to him.  I've read threads about AR10s looking at different chamber offerings and I believe in more than one he says "well why bother just get a 6.5 Grendel barrel from Lilja or Bartlein, I don't even shoot .308 anymore because the grendel is so awesome it kills invisible unicorns mid poop".  Okay maybe not an exact quote, more of a comical paraphrase.[biggrin]
 
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Yes I was reading your debate and was wondering when you were going to get the PM to cool it or get banned. Thats what happenned to me twice but I too willl tell what I feel and its a marketing gimick that isn't needed. The 6.5 proves its self and Arnie Brenan and crew developd a great thing. Then Bill A. took the credit and trademarked the name Grendel to strike it rich and almost killed the round.

So now others are making the barrels and his tactics are still at play.

It wont work, 6.5 with or withouut acompound throat shoots but the compound throat puts limitations on projectiles.

Satern, sorry Liberty, Grendel II is my go to rifle with 1/2" moa all day

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I got a nasty PM from one of the culters thats been lurking. Hes apparently thinks we're hurting the cartridge and thinks LRRBlahblah is a genius but we don't get it or something. I've sold probably 125 or more Grendel barrels just myself in the last year. I also of course created and mod the Grendel II facebook page thats about to pass up the 65Grendel forum in members. These guys just can't separate the grendel cult from the grendel caliber. I'm pro Grendel cartridge and anti Grendel cult. I guess when your in the cult you can't separate the two. Anyways enough about the zombies back to grendel myths. 

Riddle me this why is it perfectly ok to have a 3X9 scope on a 308 but on a Grendel you must have a Vortex telescope because its such a long range cartridge? No one describes the 308 at a 1000 yard cartridge but they do the Grendel? Usually the 308 is described as a 800 yard shooter. Arne Brennan will tell you the Grendel was designed as a 200 to 600 yard cartridge. Not a 1000 yard cartridge. If the 308 is a 800 yard shooter then the Grendel is NOT a 1000 yard shooter. Sure you can use a butter knife as a screw driver but its not the right tool for the job. Sure the right shooter can hit steel at a 1000 yards with the Grendel but its also NOT a 1000 yard cartridge. Just trying to keep it real. Thats fine because the vast vast majority of Grendel shooters are using it inside its capabilities. It just cracks me up when the Grendel cults guys pull out there 24in Grendels all decked out with every expensive overly built and heavy piece of furniture and a heavy scope with a rifle thats 13lbs plus to shoot long range. Its so retarded. They could have a shorter barreled lighter AR-10 in 7mm08, 308, 65 Creedmore or 260 Remington that would all out shoot there heavy overly built impractical unwieldy AR-15. The Grendel is an awesome medium range light recoil AR-15 round NOT a long range round. 

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Yeah I never understood the point of a 24" bull barrel on an AR15 because it will give some extra FPS but SERIOUS weight.  I thought the point of an AR15 was that it's light and maneuverable. I don't plan on shooting anything past 200 yds, realistically.  There are no ranges around me beyond that easily accessible to me.  There are a couple that are a PITA to join with what I consider to be stupid membership rules.  I think the max within an hour is a 400 or 500yd range.  Plus I'm in PA currently and we can't hunt with AR15s so this is just a range toy until I move to a state where I can use it in more of a utility manner.  If I wanted to stretch range of a rifle in my possession I'd do a little accurizing of my M700 in .270win before I start spending hundreds to eek out a few better MOA out of an AR15 shooting 6.5 Grendel.   

I may have gotten an PM to cool it, but as I said I haven't gone back since my last post.  
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Another hirarious one i hear from over on the 65 forum is that some chambers were cut with worn out reamers. For those of you not experienced in the machining tool world, carbide doesn't really "wear out." Carbide cutting life goes like this; Cut, cut, cut, snap! Once a carbide drill, reamer, endmill, etc loses its cutting edge it shatters. One thing we should all know about carbide is that it doesn't flex, and a rounded carbide edge biting into steel is gonna try and flex....mucho no bueno. And anyone who chambers barrels on a manufacturing level with a HSS chamber reamer(which can in theory "wear out") must have a lot of money to throw around.

just my 2 cents

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Just another reason, even if true, complicated doesnt = mo betta. If the compound throat cutting surfaces are the first to suffer and little difference is ACTUALLY seen compound and standard, well what is that saying?
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Not a myth but ties in with some stuff going on. Apx 3 weeks ago a customer calls up and says his cases are sticking.   I know it's not the bullets in the freebore because I have checked way too many.
The Hornady ammo has a bulge in the case apx 2/3rds way down. A straight edge will show the bulge or the cartridge will rock on a piece of glass.
After the Hornady cases have been resized they are straight.
I don't know about all the stuck "bullets" It may have been the bullets and it could have been the case itself. Scuffing on the cases will show it was the case and not the bullets.
I have been polishing the chambers for a few seconds to make sure there is no melonite residue and the chambers are slick.
 Some chambers  SAAMI Grendel are pretty big in the body area. A few have measured .008" larger than factory brass diameter at the base. Those would not have a problem with the Hornady sticking. The H brass I have measured looks to have a .002 bulge.

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