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olyinaz

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For throwing heavy bullets I have to wonder if this wouldn't be a nice little hammer?  I notice that the Nosler 180gr Accubond in .338 is shorter than the 150gr Accubond which I intend to load in my 30 RAR. The wider bore and bullet would gain a bit more push as well.  Maybe push the shoulder back a hair with a steeper angle.

Everybody wants to throw darts that sail to 600 yards, but most hunting in America is done way closer and I'd think that payload on target might be the better way to go, but I'm an old lever gunner so I guess you can figure where my heart lies.  In fact, I started out thinking that if the 30 RAR beats the 30-30 then a 32 RAR would beat the 32 Special as well, but 338 bullets look to be the better choice.

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Sounds good to me.
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338 Reaper might fill this niche.
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Yep without the brass problem. Its a sweet looking hammer to boot.

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I like the shoulder on the .338 on the left...which is to say that it actually has a shoulder!  The other one has always bothered me.  I guess it's working fine, but sheesh, not much there for head spacing.

The 180 gr Nosler Accubond is a strong draw and believe it or not, the 210 gr Partition is actually a bit shorter than the Accubond and has a higher BC!  Both are shorter than the 130 gr .270 Accubond, and the Partition has a BC of .400 vs. the .270 and .308 (150 gr) at .435.

I'm looking forward to the velocities reported.  A .338 Fed upper for my LR308 was on my list, but perhaps...

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I mocked up a .338 RAR and I have to say that I'm no longer as excited about the idea as I'd hoped.  See below:

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338 RAR on the left, factory Hog Hammer on the right.  The bullet loaded and in the middle-left is the Barnes 160gr TTSX .338 and on the right is the Nosler 165gr Partition.

The Nosler 165 in .30 cal has a much higher BC and it's actually shorter so it'll intrude into the case less when loaded to allowable max. The mockup 338 RAR on the left is actually several thousandths too long, but that's close to where it needed to be to have the ogive out of the case mouth.  It could be set back a bit and the neck doesn't need to be quite that long so it would work at least - I just didn't put in the time to optimize.  For reference, the Nosler .338 180gr Accubond is longer yet, and has a lower BC than the 165 Partition.  The 200gr Accubond in .338 gets the BC back up to respectable, but it's longer yet.

We can obviously do 160-165gr bullets out of the RAR now and they'll buck the wind better than the .338s and drop less than the 160 TTSX and 180 AB to boot, so if we're not going to be able to go heavier at good speed then I just don't know if there's a good reason to do this.

Food for thought.

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The 338 Reaper has two issues that I see right away - too short of a neck and perhaps the brass is a bit too long as well (338 bullets have long ogives).  God bless those who make 'em - I wish 'em the best - but I hate cartridges that struggle with neck tension and/or crimp on the ogive, so I'm not interested in it.

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