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I bought some 151gr Nosler Etips as blems from shooters pro shop and I cant find any reload data. I've got H335 and looked up Hogdon load data and they have 38gr of H335 for the 150gr Nos BT but dont have the etip listed. Quickload on this one I do t think is going to be very helpful.
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You got a couple hurdles to get past with this combo

The Etips love / need a large jump to the lands to be accurate - this is documented by Nosler - around .100” jump.

Then your case fill becomes an issue with the bullet already being long (mono bullet) and needing a jump.

When I loaded heavies (150-165 grain) for 30 RemAR I had to go with Accurate 5744 as it uses a much lesser grain count to achieve velocity.

You might buy a lb of 5744 I’f things don’t pan out with H335 before giving up
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What do you think my max load should be? I'm thinking around 37gr of H335? 
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What do you think my max load should be? I'm thinking around 37gr of H335? 


Yeah that would be my stopping point , the mono bullets typically call for 1 grain less than standard cup/core and Hodgdon shows 37.0 grains max for a 160 FTX so you should be okay with your 150 grain
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I got my load I just need to verify the velocity. It should be close to 2600fps according to my quick load predictions. 5 shots of 150gr Nosler etip under an inch at 100 yards will do well as a hunting load. When you take into account the BC of these bullets is .469 this load will mimic a 308 168gr coming from a similar barrel length.

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This is what the brass looked like. It's a warm load but I'm comfortable with it. I wouldn't go any higher.

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These are the blem bullets i used from Shooters pro shop.

http://www.shootersproshop.com/nosler-30-caliber-151-grain-e-tip-banded-bullets-blem-50ct.html

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That will be some impressive ballistics if it's doing 2600.  Do you have a place to test it at longer ranges?
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That will be some impressive ballistics if it's doing 2600.  Do you have a place to test it at longer ranges?


If it's not 2600 its really close to that as 36.9gr was 2555 or there abouts. I shoot a couple loads to get the velocities to adjust Quick Load so it would like up with real world velocities. I did that and it predicted this load at mid 70s temp and a COAL of 2.25 would be my accuracy node. It said the velocity would be right at 2600. Maybe later this week I can send a few down range with the chrony to get the real world a accuracy but I'm sure it's right about 2600. I would like to shoot this load some more letting the barrel cool down between shots to see how good a group I can get. I shoot this group fairly quickly not letting the barrel cool.

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Also quickload is telling me that a 20in barrel is ideal for the 150gr bullets as the accuracy nodes tend to be right around the max loads. Its saying that 22in barrels the loads are a little lighter and end up getting about the same velocities as 20in barrels. That's only for 150gr bullets.
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When you get this into an animal try to recover the bullet - inquiring minds want to know how well it opens up...
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When you get this into an animal try to recover the bullet - inquiring minds want to know how well it opens up...
if I get a mule deer this year. I've been blessed the last two seasons hopefully I'll get one this year as well.

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Nosler loaded ammo for 308 win with this bullet is 2750fps but that's a 24in barrel once you adjust that down to a 20in barrel it's 2650 fps as there is a 100fps drop from a 24in to 20in barrel in 308 with a 150gr bullet. In other words a 308 factory bullet with a 150gr nosler etip is only getting 50fps more than my 30RAR hand load. Put another way if someone is shooting a 16in AR10 with factory nosler then they are getting less velocity than what I'm getting with my 20in 30RAR handloaded with 150gr etips. To put this in more perspective my 30RAR load with my 20in barrel is getting the same performance as a 18in 308 Win with factory ammo.

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